Kim Kardashian Puts Kourtney, Khloé, Kendall and Kris Jenner Through Media Training Class
What were some of the most hurtful things in Caitlyn’s book? Some of the most Well, I think just the general tone of the book. Was it mean spirited? Very mean spirited. A lot of inaccuracies. I think somebody with a little elegance and cla.ss and somebody that’s been divorced but trying to stay on good terms with the family might have written, “Wow, married to her, didn’t work out. You know, she’s a great girl.
Wish it could have been different.” Okay. Let’s stop there. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Well, that wasn’t fun. But, I realize that the only person that I can control and how I react and respond to anything is myself. And I truly do see some value in this whole process. Chloe, where did you get those gla.ss jars? Uh Don’t tell her.
She’ll have them in 2 seconds. Everything in her house is literally from my house. Who cares if I have a gla.ss jar like yours? Oh my god. You guys, so I went to this um media training. I didn’t think I needed it after like 10 years of doing media, but like it was so helpful and so beneficial and I think you’ll just learn things about yourself that you just could improve.
There’s always some talk show or something that’s going on in our lives or one of our family members’ lives that we don’t really want to be asked sometimes and we do all get nervous at different points. I’m going to have a heart @ttack. No, you are going to do great. Why are you so nervous? You’ve done a MILLION OF THESE.
UM CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT SCOTT? How is he? What’s going on? Are you all together? ARE YOU NOT TOGETHER? I JUST THINK IT’LL BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA to get prepared and have everyone face our fears and figure out what that is, what our strong points are, weaknesses are.
I don’t think you could ever be too prepared. I don’t don’t really want to do it only because I don’t want it to filter me. I like just being me and I think that’s what people like for me and I like that I don’t really like I just like do an interview. I don’t really think. Yeah, like does it add more pressure because then you’re thinking? am I doing it right? Did I say the word like? Hold my head right.
Do I have to not be Khloe? I mean, this isn’t to like put words in your mouth. This is just to like give you the tools to like know how to be prepared when someone says something. I don’t want to do it. I don’t want to do media. I don’t want to be on the defensive about us or about Caitlyn or about my kids or, you know, any other thing we do.
I think I am enjoying private life to be private when we’re off camera and we’re not shooting our show. But mom, you saying you’re never going to do media again is not a way to address the issue. That’s how you’re only going to make things worse cuz then you’re going to get more nervous when you actually have to do something.
Yeah. All right, let’s go, push. Woah. We’re on the top of our fort. The fort is falling. When I did media training, it was so helpful for me just to be aware of the things I’m saying. So, I just don’t think the answer is to retreat. You have to be prepared that someday you might get asked a question that you don’t want to answer and you should just instead of getting flustered, you should just be really prepared for it.
You just have to start being like a boss. Yeah. You know, like you really have to like change your whole vibe. It’s time. Oh, wow. Hi Bo. Mom, you look gorge. Thank you. So do you. I love your earrings. You look so pretty in your sunnies. Hey Kris, I’m Jen Faquie. Hi, how are you? to meet you. Pleasure to meet you. I’m a big fan.
And I’ve been watching a lot of video of you and I were thinking Oh, hi. You’re cute. Hi Ken. This is Kendall. Hi Kendall. Hi Kendall, nice to see you. Bill, nice to meet you. Do you guys watch the interviews that you’ve done? I don’t. No. No, I watch my kids cuz it’s my job, but I can’t I don’t care to watch myself because I don’t want to know.
I just what I don’t know can’t hurt me. We’re going to change that today because that really needs to become a part of how you’re going to get better. Right. There is maybe a legion of people out there who still have the narrative of like, okay, so what are you guys famous for besides being famous? And every time you go out to do an interview, you have the opportunity for somebody to read that or see that and say, “Wow, did you see that interview with one of the Kardashian girls? That was really impressive. She was really
thoughtful. They seemed like really savvy, smart, like business women.” Yeah. Okay, so this is one thing that I think is really, really critical and that is we’re all going to be in situations where we’re feeling anxious. When that happens, we get this sh0t of adrenaline and when you start speaking faster, you have less control over what you’re saying.
So, you have to f1ght your body and talk a little bit more slowly, a little bit more deliberately, you know, downshift and don’t speed through everything. What I need help with In that case, there are a few things in my life I don’t want to talk about. I’m done. I think we’re trying to get people to not be I won’t talk about that. You want to take the emotion out of it, right? Because that’s exactly what the reporter is looking for is to get under your skin.
Before we do an interview, let’s think of all the things that we don’t want to talk about. And let’s really be thoughtful about how we can talk about it. Maybe Kris, if you knew exactly what you wanted to say about Caitlyn and really thought about it in advance, you probably would be in a much better position to respond. And I just think with the overall strategy, my mom has done so much, but I don’t think she gets like the accolades that she really deserves.
So, I really want to like push her to start positioning herself as the strong businesswoman and mogul that she is. You know, my mom, she had her own talk show. She was so confident doing interviews, and I just think her recent life experiences has just made her more insecure and not really confident, and she just doesn’t really know what to say.
I think she just has her guard up, and she just like needs to have this like comeback and figure it out and get back to being confident again. Is everybody clear on what we’re going to do next? No. No, what are we doing next? We’re going to do a group interview. A mock interview. No. Okay. Oh, god.
And uh we’re going to videotape it. And we’re going to play it back. And we’re going to offer our feedback. Uh what works and what we could tweak. Okay. I think I’ve gotten to a place in my life where I just really don’t like questions from press and media. It’s a lot of work to be front and center.
It’s easier to stay in the background. It is. It is a lot of pressure, but I think it’s like fascinating that we all have been doing media interviews for a decade, and we’ve never had media training, and that’s usually one of the first things that you do when you start off in this business. So, I can’t wait for them to do it.
Okay, phones down, lad1es. Let’s pretend that this is You’re Megyn Kelly. We’re we’re on a Megyn Kelly So, the Hollywood Reporter has called it the Kardashian decade. How a sex tape led to a billion dollar brand. What do you guys attribute to this longevity? Why are people so fascinated by you guys 10 years later.
I think that the authenticity of our family really rings through and I think that with any one of us, I think you’re able to connect. You could relate to Kim or someone could be obsessed with Kendall and I think um following our lives so closely, they really feel they’re along for that ride because we have been so open and honest.
Do you need the show to do that? After the life of the show, whenever that is, does this still hold together? I think that the show was a wonderful foundation for everything else that we do and I think that because so many people got emotionally invested season 1 episode 1 and have seen the family through everything that we’ve been through.
So it’s everything. We We show wh@tever’s going on in our lives. So it’s divorce, you know, marriages, uh you know, births. Every single thing that happens in our lives, they get to experience and I don’t think we’ve ever let them down. Mhm. Well, I think I don’t know if we’re answering the question Right. what she’s asking.
I think that what she’s asking is What can they go on without it? Yes and I think absolutely because I think that exactly. I think that social media is such a big thing today and you were done with your question. This is a real interview, see? But can you have the unity of the family on social media like you do on tele television? You know what? I feel like our show definitely gives different layers to our lives.
It’s like an onion and you’re pulling all those layers back. And I think you do see our dynamic on Snapchat when there’s video involved. You do see fully express your personality the same way I think that we do on our show. Yeah. So we’re screwed when the show’s over. Kris, looking back, were there signs that Bruce at the time wanted to become a woman? Did you turn a blind eye? Um No, I don’t think I turned a blind eye.
I think I just didn’t have the whole truth of what was going on in his life. But you didn’t see it because of the proximity. I mean, we’re incredibly close. Kris, looking back, were there signs that Bruce at the time wanted to become a woman? Did you turn a blind eye? No, I don’t think I turned a blind eye.
I think I just didn’t have the whole truth of what was going on in his life. But you didn’t see it because of the proximity. I mean, we’re incredibly close. No, we kept a lot of it from you. Like we were Like we were like a little team. I of this being kept from Not until I actually read the book.
There’s things that happened that I that they didn’t tell me. Are you resentful about that now? I’m not resentful about it. It just makes me really sad because I’m a protective mom. I would do anything for my kids. And if had I known what some of the things they were experiencing, especially Kendall and Kylie, I mean, it just broke my heart, you know, hearing some of that stuff.
Talking about decisions you could have back. Kendall, you had the opportunity to not do that ad. You’re telling me you’re getting me like a hypothetical. Yes. Do you do it still or not? Cuz there was there was a huge outcry that you were just toned down the whole thing. I think it was definitely a huge learning lesson.
It never went through your mind when you read the scr.i.pt like There were a lot of things that were blinding me. There were a lot of people I had faith in. There were a lot of things I had trust in. You blame your managers? In this case, mom? Actually, no, not this time. Okay, yeah, let’s let’s end it there. Good.
Thank you. What do you say? Thank you. So now we’re going to look at it and do some messaging work around it. Okay, let’s let’s watch. The Hollywood Reporter has called it the Kardashian decade. How a sex tape led to a billion dollar brand. Chris, interestingly, your eyes dropped when Jen got to the mention of the tape.
I know. I think try to keep that eye contact and not look like oh, you know, almost like that poked in the ribs a little bit. Yeah. I’m just kidding. Were there signs that Bruce at the time wanted to become a woman? Did you turn a blind eye? No. So, that tone of voice definitely sounded a little defensive.
I know. This is where I wish I could say it concisely. It’s like there’s two truths. More than half of the marriage it was like a picture perfect two people in love having kids doing this doing that travel so excited like I wouldn’t have seen that truth in a gazillion years.
People’s truths at the end, the truth is so different than in the beginning. You just said your own answer. I know. I feel like that was the answer. Yeah, that was perfect. Is that how authentic you need to be? Like be pa.ssionate instead of a how do I say that in two minutes? I mean you know, cuz that sounds like such a long story.
I think you’re trying to play it too guarded too safe on this. Cuz what happened here you’re saying it off line and you totally went for it. And it was truth and it was and it worked. Yeah, cuz that’s my truth. They’re having such a hard time. We say I think 4 million times. Yes. I’m and I say like a million times.
No, we all I hope you know we all most of us start our sentences or after the first two words say I think or we say I think I like we say I think a lot. If you actually put thought behind what are the first five words out of my mouth when I go to open them, they will not be it’ll be real content instead of just sound.
As you do more and more business interviews and you project yourselves as the successful business women you are, that’s really important. Be cleaner out of the gate. Yeah. Kendall, look at your body language here when this comes out. You have the opportunity to not do that. You’re telling me you’re giving me like a hypothetical.
Yes. Do you do it still or not? I think maybe tackle this a little bit more directly. Here’s what I would do differently. Well, it’s it’s such a difficult question because it is hypothetical and that’s not what happened. So, the fans really, I think, turned a little bit and that’s when Kendall had her first controversy is because the Kardashian side has always been so open.
So, if that would have happened to us, we would have spoken right away. have never dealt with something of this magnitude. You could talk about having a false sense of security dealing with such a huge brand. There’s a certain a.ssumption that this creative is going to be great and it blew up in their face.
Yeah. I have learned so much over the last like four years of my career. I’ve learned that the only person that’s ever going to truly, truly, truly look out for me is me. And like it is really hard work. So, you can see where the maybe one of the overriding takeaways here is give your answers in the affirmative, not the absence of the negative.
Mhm. It projects a much more confident demeanor behind your answers. Okay. I have to get out of here. It’s so nice working with you. Okay, good luck. Fortunately for us, just about everybody who is a host or an interviewer asks a question the same way. Before they actually ask you the question, they’d like to show off that they know a thing or two about you and the topic.
Context. Context, right. What you want to do is listen to that contextual setup for keywords as to where this is going. Start thinking about what it is you want to say in the question. Got it. I think we’re ready for one on ones. I think we’re ready for the one on ones. We often say to people that we want the interviews we do with them in practice to be among the harder ones that they would face so that they’re not sh0cked by any questions out there.
Go ahead. You are closest to Rob. Lately, he seems to be having some erratic behavior. What’s going on with him? Um, you know, Rob definitely wears his heart on his sleeve and when he loves, he loves really, really hard. And with that being said, when he gets hurt, he hurts really, really badly.
Courtney, I’m curious about your decision to have your kids have such a public life, to be in the show. Scott is front and center. His infidelity, his drinking problems. The kids will be able to like find these shows online. How will you explain it to them? I’ll just say none of it’s true.
Today, you’ve found love again with a man who’s 26 years younger. Is he 26 years younger? That’s what That’s what the reports say. Okay. So, what’s going on with you and Corey? Will you marry him? Are you going to get remarried? I don’t think I I would ever feel the need to ever get married again.
You stuck by Lamar, but when it came to Caitlyn, you didn’t seem to have that same understanding. Why is that? You know what? I actually was really understanding and supportive of Caitlyn. Um, I think that the public has a different perception. Courtney, I imagine you’re deluged with proposals, business partnerships.
What are some of the things that you’re looking for in order to decide whether you want to be involved? I think at this point in my life, you know, it’s already a lot to balance being a mom and working. So, I really am only taking on projects that I’m really pa.ssionate about. What were some of the most hurtful things in Caitlyn’s book? Some of the most Well, I think just the general tone of the book.
Was it mean spirited? Very mean spirited. A lot of inaccuracies. I think somebody with a little elegance and cla.ss and somebody that’s been divorced but trying to stay on good terms with the family might have written, “Wow, married to her, didn’t work out.” You know, she’s a great girl. Wish it could have been different.
Okay. Let’s stop there. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Well, that wasn’t fun. But, I realize that the only person that I can control and how I react and respond to anything is myself. And I truly do see some value in this whole process. It appears from my watching the show that you’re closest to Rob.
And lately, he seems to be having some erratic behavior. through this, you know, kind of validating he’s erratic. I mean, it was cr4zy. There’s also a value of equating yourself with other families. You know, you you are the subject of interest, but to make what happens in the Kardashians universal reminds the aud1ence that this this kind of stuff goes on in your family, too.
Right. And like any family, this is what we did. Okay. Scott is front and center. His infidelity, his drinking problems. Uh were you going to comment on the laugh? Yeah. We’re talking about something really serious about your kids and the potential for them to see some pretty disturbing video of them, and you’re laughing.
Yeah. It was probably a nervous laugh. No, of course. But, I feel like it like lightens the mood a little. But, the perception is that Yeah. taking this seriously. And you don’t really have a plan for your kids when that time Yeah. does come. Yeah. Did you ever read Caitlyn’s book? I did.
You did. I think somebody that’s been divorced but trying to stay on good terms with the family might have written, “Wow, married to her, didn’t work out. She’s a great girl. Wish it could have been different.” you could, if you wanted to push it a little further, say, “But, of course, we all know that that doesn’t sell books.
” That’s a good one. Right. We live our entire lives in front of the whole world and questions like this are going to keep coming for as long as I can foresee. So, it really does help to have some sk1lls under my belt to be able to help just convey what I’m trying to say. Okay, bye.
Bye, Chris. Bye. Bye, Chris. Thanks for h00king us up with this. Good advice. Good. It was great. You got so much better. Really good, Chris. in between the first and the second interview. Really good. Good. Thank you for coming all the way and helping us get better at what we can’t do very well.
I learned a lot. Good. Good. Mom, you learned a lot, too. I could tell. to do it again. Hello. Hi, I’m Deborah. Hi, Chris. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. Okay. Awesome. Hi. Hi, how are you? Nice to see you. I’ve seen you a long time ago. You meet 5 million people a day, but it’s good to see you.
I think I go up to your waist and I’m tall. I’ve been shying away from interviews lately, but after doing the media training, I do feel a bit more confident. The Hollywood Reporter has asked me to do an interview with them and have Kareem Abdul Jabbar be the guy who does the interview. He is one of basketball’s biggest superstars and I love Kareem and I’ve always loved The Hollywood Reporter, so it’s a match.
You’ve become a symbolic of a highly effective business manager. Do you see that your your business management style, do you see that as your principal legacy? I think so. I mean, my legacy is definitely my family and my kids. It’s like the perfect storm because I was able to work with my kids every single day and at the same time, I’m their mom, so I had their best interests in mind at all times and was able to navigate this very complicated world of entertainment meets modeling meets the endorsement world meets corporate America. And I
think that it’s been really successful because we trust each other. Are you comfortable with the sexual nature of the photos and Instagrams that your daughters have put out there because, you know, your your grandchildren going to have to deal with some embarra.ssment and teasing. Um I am very comfortable at this point if they’re comfortable.
I think if something is leaked or it’s out there and they haven’t had anything to do with that, you know, then you can’t control everything. Right. But I think it just depends on what it is. I’m always proud of everything that they do. I think it’s amazing and I think that they give other women confidence and the ability to feel really great about who they are.
That’s There’s a lot of power and and self esteem that comes with and strength that comes with being comfortable in your own skin. as they are are comfortable with it and it’s done in a way that they see as tasteful and Exactly. and uh exemplary of who they are. Exactly. You’ve been very open about your own plastic surgery and you say a girl’s got to do what a girl’s got to do.
But does that send a message to young women that, you know, their looks are the most important parts of who they are? I don’t think so. I think that everybody has their own beauty at different ages. So I think that if something that you want to do makes you feel better about yourself, then why not? I think everybody has to make their own choice.
I think the experience of going through the media training was very helpful for me because it’s taught me that I set the tone and the mood. And if I choose to do an interview with somebody, I now know just expect the tough questions, have some sense of preparedness so that I feel confident in answering the question.
Great. Well, May, thanks for answering all my questions. Of course. You’ve been wonderful and I really appreciate it. Can I ask you a question? By all means. Okay, how tall are you? Uh I was 7’2″. I’m I’m starting to shrink a little bit. It doesn’t look like you’re shrinking to me. Old age has kind of squished me down a little bit.
How old are you? 70. No. I’m 70. Wow. Born 1947. Wow. Yeah. I don’t see you as being 70 in a million years. Well, you know, I I’ve spent some time, you know, in my house looking in the sofa and the bed and the a number of chairs trying to find out where my a.ss went. But uh That’s amazing.
That’s That’s life, you know. Yeah. Well.
